eslHQ Home
User Name Password
Lost Password? | Join eslHQ.com, it's FREE!
View today's posts
Search Extras Help   

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sep 28th, 2012, 07:50 pm
CKC CKC is offline
eslHQ Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 21st, 2012
Posts: 52
CKC is on a distinguished road
Default need not to do sth

....

Last edited by CKC : Sep 27th, 2013 at 01:53 am.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sep 29th, 2012, 12:22 am
Sue
 
Join Date: Oct 8th, 2006
Location: Milan
Posts: 1,406
susan53 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: need not to do sth

Well yes - you can if you're able to time travel and find yourself in the 13th century. But I wouldn't try it in the 21st in the way you're talking about. You'd change the meaning. In that position "not" negates the infinitive - the sentence would mean "it's necessary that you don't do XXX" - which is rarely used. But compare eg :

I don't like getting up early.
I like not having to get up early.

To understand these sentence you have to chunk them differently depending on the scope of the negative particle :

I don't like / getting up early.
I like / not having to get up early.

With "need" I could see it happening in some sort of counselling or psychotherapy session:

I need you not to keep nagging me. = It's necessary for me that you stop nagging

But the meaning differs from

I don't need you to keep nagging me = It's not necessary for you to nag me.

which can also be expressed modally : You needn't keep nagging me.
__________________
An ELT Notebook
The DELTA Course
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sep 29th, 2012, 01:09 am
Sue
 
Join Date: Oct 8th, 2006
Location: Milan
Posts: 1,406
susan53 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: need not to do sth

Re your questions about university expressions (always better to put different questions in their own threads with separate titles - it makes it easier for people to find them)...

regarding the "U" question - in English you'd just say "uni". And as for the hostel etc words, they differ mainly in what they are used to describe.

Hostel - any form of cheap, fairly basic accommodation for large numbers of people: youth hostels, student hostels etc. maybe accommodation for the homeless...
Hall - in B. Eng, short for "hall of residence" Used only for university/college accommodation.
Dormitory - in B.Eng at least, a large room where a lot of people sleep. Usually associated with boarding schools, possibly also accommodation for the homeless. I suspect in Am. Eng it's also used in a uni context.
__________________
An ELT Notebook
The DELTA Course
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sep 30th, 2012, 07:36 pm
CKC CKC is offline
eslHQ Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 21st, 2012
Posts: 52
CKC is on a distinguished road
Default Re: need not to do sth

Thank you for your answers.

Last edited by CKC : Sep 27th, 2013 at 01:56 am.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads Replies
why no definite article? 1
allow sb to do sth = allow doing? 4
exercises pre-intermediate level 2

Find the Best TEFL, TESL, TESOL & CELTA Certification Courses - User Submitted Ratings & Reviews for Online, Distance & Abroad TEFL Courses. Over 3,500 reviews of 100+ TEFL schools!

Teach English in Thailand - Onsite and Combined TEFL certification courses in Phuket, Thailand.


Free ESL Flashcards


Similar Threads Replies
why no definite article? 1
allow sb to do sth = allow doing? 4
exercises pre-intermediate level 2


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 pm.

All materials from this website are for classroom-use only. Digital redistribution of materials, in part or in whole, is strictly forbidden!

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2